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Which destinations have the most conversations on Twitter?

Friday, December 5th, 2008

Here is our updated list for the number of conversations US destinations are having on Twitter. 

 

A conversation on Twitter is not a tweet but a series of replies back and forth between two Twitter users. For destinations on Twitter conversations – together with retweets – can be seen as the best engagement with other users.

The ranking at the end of November by number of total conversations:

Rank Destinations City / State Total Nr. Of conversation
1 visitphilly Philadelphia, PA 169
2 BaltimoreMD Baltimore, MD 123
3 VisitChicago Chicago, IL 83
4 lehighvalleypa Lehigh Valley, PA 64
5 ArizonaTourism Arizona 46
6 ashevilletravel Asheville, NC 37
7 VisitIndiana Indiana 37
8 ExpCols Columbus, OH 34
9 TravelOregon Oregon 32
10 paadventure Philadelphia, PA 29
11 discover_la Los Angeles, CA 28
12 visitfingerlake Finger Lakes, NY 28
13 PositivelyCleve Cleveland, OH 26
14 enjoyillinois Illinois 24
15 InsideSonoma Sonoma, CA 22
16 whatcomcounty Whatcom County, WA 22
17 Hillsborough Hillsborough, NC 20
18 flee2thecleve Cleveland, OH 19
19 MeetMinneapolis Minneapolis, MN 18
20 travelnevada Nevada 17

 

And here is the number of conversations taking place in November – Philadelphia, Asheville and VisitChicago were far ahead of everybody else in that category:

Destinations City / State Total conversations 11/4 Total conversation 11/30 Nr. of conversations in Nov.
visitphilly Philadelphia, PA 132 169 37
ashevilletravel Asheville, NC 1 37 36
VisitChicago Chicago, IL 48 83 35
discover_la Los Angeles, CA 13 28 15
BaltimoreMD Baltimore, MD 111 123 12
enjoyillinois Illinois 12 24 12
ArizonaTourism Arizona 35 46 11
VisitIndiana Indiana 26 37 11
TravelOregon Oregon 23 32 9
MeetMinneapolis Minneapolis, MN 9 18 9
InsideSonoma Sonoma, CA 14 22 8
ExpCols Columbus, OH 29 34 5
ScottsdaleAZ Scottsdale, AZ 5 10 5
travelnevada Nevada 13 17 4
renotahoe Reno / Tahoe, NV 10 14 4
UtahStateParks Utah State Parks 12 15 3
PensacolaCVB Pensacola, FL 2 5 3
VisitNH New Hampshire 12 14 2
ColumbiaMOCVB Columbia, MO 5 7 2
FortSmithCVB Forth Smith, TX 1 2 1
VisitVF Valley Forge, PA 0 1 1

 

When looking at the conversations of destinations keep in mind that a significant number of conversations on Twitter is still taking place between different destinations and not with consumers or travelers.

We plan to track the growth of conversations over the next months to see if the number grows as the travel industry figures out better and better ways to use Twitter as a tool to talk to travelers.

Anybody interested in this?

How destinations engage – Conversations on Twitter

Monday, November 17th, 2008

At the end of each month we look at the destinations in the US that are using Twitter to engage consumers and publish a ranking of these destinations using Twitter Grader.

And important element Grader does not take into account when calculating it’s score is the number of conversations that is taking place on Twitter. A “conversation” on Twitter can be defined as an exchange of (public) messages between users using the “@” syntax.

So here is the ranking of the top 20 destinations by conversations (this ranking does not include direct messages):

Destinations Number of conversations as of 4/11
visitphilly 132
BaltimoreMD 111
VisitChicago 48
ArizonaTourism 35
ExpCols 29
Hillsborough 28
VisitIndiana 26
TravelOregon 23
ColumbiaSC 13
travelnevada 13
discover_la 13
UtahStateParks 12
enjoyillinois 12
VisitNH 12
renotahoe 10
MeetMinneapolis 9
ScottsdaleAZ 5
VisitVirginia 5
PensacolaCVB 2
ashevilletravel 1

Clearly Philadelphia and Baltimore and far, far ahead of everybody else.

The number of conversations is cumulative, so obviously those destinations that started earlier have an advantage.

I think it will be interesting to see how the number of conversations changes over time as Twitter enters the mainstream more and more. Are you interested in that as well?

Don’t be afraid to be engaged – Measuring social media ROI (Part 1)

Wednesday, November 12th, 2008

The most asked question about social media is: “Why should we be doing this?”. Do a good enough job of answering that question and you will immediately be asked “What is the ROI for this?”. You might be tempted to ask in return about the ROI for the last print ad your organization did or the ROI for taking a customer out on a golf course – but there are better options. Because the impact of social media activities can be measured, can be reported and can be put in relation to the cost involved: the ROI for social media activities can be measured.

At this week’s E-Marketing Insight conference we will present our thoughts on social media measurements, but to start a discussion about this subject we thought we would blog about this and hopefully start a wider debate.

In this post we want to share some of the ways we measure the ROI of social media activities using Twitter as an example.

Twitter is free to use so the only “investment” is the time needed to tweet.

The “return” part or the ROI should be defined as how successful you are in engaging customers through Twitter. Several factors are important and can be measured:

How many times did you Twitter?
Every time you tweet you potentially engage each of your followers. The challenge is that unlike email where you can measure an open rate there are no reliable tools to find out who reads your tweet or not. (Note: there are some tools to measure Twitter “open rates” and we will discuss those in one of our next posts).

How many people follow you?
Obviously the more people follow you, the more people you touch with your Tweets.

How many people follow the people who follow you?
But it is also important who follows you – quality beats quantity. You want people as followers who actively use Twitter and are followed themselves by many other users. Several tools allow you to measure the strength of your network.
(Note: we are measuring the strength of our network but at this point we are not considering this when calculating ROIs or cost per engagement).

How many of your posts are re-tweeted?
Re-tweeted posts engage on a high level. Somebody found your information important enough to share it with their followers. Not only those this take some effort on their part (= higher engagement) but it also gets your message out to people who you do not touch. Re-tweets are one of the highest levels of engagements you can have on Twitter.

How many conversations are you having with followers?
Another high level of engagement are the conversations you are having on Twitter. If you have followers that reply to your posts or ask you questions directly it can result in a high level if engagement.

For our ROI calculation we (roughly) track the time we spend on Twitter and multiply it by an hourly rate. This is our investment.
Example: Time spent twittering per month: 20 hours at an hourly rate of USD 150 = total cost of USD 3,000

To calculate the return we assign values to the different forms of engagement, we call these “engagement units”.

Example for one month:
- Tweets per month: 200
- Average followers in that month: 100
- Tweets x followers = 200 x 100 = 20,000 EU (engagement units)

- Re-tweets: 5
- Value of a re-tweet in engagement units: 1,000
- Re-tweet engagement value for that month: 5 x 1,000 = 5,000

- Conversations: 20
- Value of a conversation: 500
- Total engagement value of conversations: 20 x 500 = 10,000

Total engagement units this month: 35,000 EUs

ROI = 35,000 EU / 3,000 USD = 11.67

Or looking at it another way the CPE (cost per engagement) is 3,000 USD / 35,000 EU = 8.6 cents.

The number itself does not say a lot but repeating this exercise every month allows you to track engagement over time. Furthermore we can now put this number in relation to other vehicles we use for engagement like a website or email newsletter. We suggest using corresponding engagement values for those tools.

Example:
- Email newsletter opened = 1 EU,
- Newsletter forwarded to a friend = 300 EUs,
- Link clicked in the email newsletter = 50 EUs

Cost to produce email newsletter (labor + tools) = 2,500 USD
Engagement created by newsletter = 3,800 reads, 3 forwards, 600 clicks = 34,700 EUs

CPE for the email newsletter: = 2,500 USD / 34,700 EUs = 7.2 cents

And obviously you can do the same thing for a website or a blog using analytics data and assigning corresponding engagement values.

We compare all our forms of engagement on a monthly dashboard. The values we are currently using for the different forms of engagement are not set in stone. We will probably adjust them once we have more data (at the moment we only have 3 months).

Anybody else measuring engagement this way? Thoughts on the values assigned to the different forms of engagement? Analytics overkill or helpful insights?

(Thanks to monkeyc for the photo)

Slowing economy: what you can learn from Expedia

Wednesday, November 5th, 2008

Expedia had their earnings conference call for the 3rd quarter of 2008 call on Monday and provided some very interesting insights.

Most questions on the call revolved around the weakening economy and what Expedia is doing as a reaction. Expedia is a truly global travel company and because they are in the online space they can see trends much faster. So I think there is a lot to learn from Expedia for everybody in travel and tourism.

Expedia sees softness in almost all global markets and across all product lines (air, car, hotel) as well as the media side (e.g. Tripadvisor). Expedia also expects 2009 to be a very difficult year in travel on a global level

What is Expedia doing?

1. Be more efficient in marketing
Apparently Expedia felt that paid search was getting more and more expensive for some keywords so they moved more in to the long tail of SEM. Meaning that they do more keywords that individually have a lot less traffic and are therefore cheaper. Of course this makes managing paid search a lot more complex and requires a lot more sophisticated tools to run campaigns.

Expedia will do more targeted emails (as they lead to up to 30% better conversion rates) as well as more data mining to deliver more relevant offers and content.

What does it mean for you?
Are you seeing the same trend of keywords getting more expensive? Do you have the tools to do more long tail search? Do you have your email database set up to handle targeted emails? How do you segment customers so you can have a relevant call to action for each segment? What is your call to action for the different segments? Are you offering differentiated, relevant content or is your content “one size fits all”?

2. Improve conversion ratios
Expedia apparently has been successful with lowering or dropping fees and they will continue to use these tools in a softer economy to drive transaction volume. They will also push their loyalty programs more and reward their most loyal customers.

What does it mean for you?
Very interesting to see a business that sells a commodity (online transaction) focus more on repeat customers and customer loyalty. Do you know who your repeat customers are (e.g. who visits your destination every year)? How are you talking to and rewarding these customers? Once you have identified who these consumers are, marketing to them is a lot cheaper than chasing new customers.

3. Get better supply
Expedia feels that as occupancy has dropped already significantly, average daily rates (ADRs) for hotels will now start to drop. This should lead to great offers for consumers, which should help Expedia do more transactions.

What does it mean for you?
This was a very interesting point. The hotel industry over the last weeks (e.g. at TIA Marketing Outlook Forum in Portland) has said over and over again that it does not want to repeat the mistake it made after 9/11 when hotels dropped rates significantly and then could not raise them again. Expedia says rates will drop and I think they are right. Hotels will not have the willpower to watch occupancy drop further and not play with rates.
So let’s assume hotel rates will drop. This will create problems for those organizations that sell hotels online as a “side business” (like some DMOs) as well as organizations (like DMOs) that have income that is based on room tax. Lower hotel rates = less commission and lower tax revenues.

4. Grow non-transaction revenue
Expedia plans to grow ad revenues on its sites to offset drops in transaction revenue. The challenge is to find the right mix, so that ads do not drive potential transaction revenue off the site. Expedia also plans to sell more high margin products like insurance and co-branded credit cards.

What does it mean for you?
Obviously a company like Expedia is set up perfectly to offset a drop in transactional revenue with other sources like advertising. But how are you monetizing the eyeballs you are getting? Are you selling ads? Do you have value-ad components you can monetize? How will you offset possible budget cuts with new revenue streams?

5. Lower costs
And finally the company plans to lower cost in the fulfillment area any by making shifts within the marketing budget. Expedia explained in the call the higher return on investment for spending money on SEO and getting more natural search than spending money on paid search, especially as the price for popular keywords has gone up.

So what does it mean for you?
Expedia did say that they currently do not plan to lay off staff or cut marketing expenses. They however plan to spend their money more wisely, utilize the investments they made in the past like setting up more sophisticated keywords or segmenting their email databases. The most important insight (although not a new one): in general money is better spend on SEO than SEM.

Summary:
- The slowdown in the economy will continue to affect travel worldwide
- Do not cut your marketing budgets but spend them smarter
- Consumers react to relevant messages so you need to be highly targeted
- Think about new sources of revenue, especially if you depend on room taxes
- You should do a lot of experiments on a smaller scale to quickly learn what works and then apply the learnings to your overall business

Destinations on Twitter – October 08 Report

Sunday, November 2nd, 2008

Another month has come to an end – time to publish our updated list of destinations that are using Twitter (or at least have registered an account). The list of DMOs / CVBs on Twitter we could find has grown to 76 (in the US). (Click here for the last list)

BaltimoreMD is still the number 1 destination on Twitter, they are on track to be the first destination with over 1,000 followers by the end of November.

A surprise Nr. 2 is newcomer VisitChicago (full disclosure: we work with them on GoSeeChicago.com). They started using Twitter less than a month ago and have now already over 500 followers. Very, very impressive.

Destinations are ranked using TwitterGrader which ranks Twitter accounts from 100% to 0%. A score of 95% means that the account ranks higher than 95% of all Twitter accounts that have been graded by the tool.

Here is the whole list, please let us know who we are missing:

Destination Rank
Oct 08
Twitter
Grade
10/31/08
Followers
10/31/08
Following
10/31/08
Updates
10/31/08
BaltimoreMD 1 98.8 859 2764 426
VisitChicago 2 97.5 525 941 105
visitphilly 3 97.3 507 713 624
ExpCols 4 97.2 495 368 1256
ArizonaTourism 5 95.9 368 263 199
TravelOregon 6 95 310 218 504
ashevilletravel 7 93 238 211 325
MeetMinneapolis 8 93 230 223 81
ColumbiaSC 9 92 216 424 100
UtahStateParks 10 91 195 497 26
renotahoe 11 90 176 95 35
Hillsborough 12 86 134 147 180
travelnevada 13 86 139 120 73
enjoyillinois 14 84 122 179 51
VisitIndiana 15 83 116 85 214
ScottsdaleAZ 16 83 116 149 38
VisitNH 17 80 95 76 68
discover_la 18 79 91 117 148
PensacolaCVB 19 76 81 78 59
VisitVirginia 20 76 80 40 79
VisitVF 21 73 72 82 9
WCVA 22 72 68 12 44
BattleCreekCVB 23 72 68 128 21
visitflorida 24 71 67 39 267
VaBeachCVB 25 71 66 3 15
InsideSonoma 26 70 64 18 152
FortSmithCVB 27 69 62 11 117
AnnArborAreaCVB 28 68 59 60 92
ColumbiaMOCVB 29 67 57 93 15
Calistoga 30 64 51 20 174
VisitMissouri 31 64 51 28 24
VisitFlagstaff 32 61 46 31 18
fargomoorhead 33 61 47 71 18
chattanoogafun 34 55 38 5 10
whatcomcounty 35 54 37 73 41
AlpharettaCVB 36 53 36 18 12
insidealaska 37 50 33 3 57
LansingCVB 38 50 33 8 5
WMTA1917 39 49 31 16 21
PadreDude 40 48 30 52 29
SpringfieldCVB 41 43 25 1 19
Clarksville_CVB 42 43 25 31 1
Stockton_CVB 43 41 24 3 8
BenzieCounty 44 40 23 14 6
visitkc 45 39 22 30 10
SantaRosaCVB 46 38 21 24 14
MendocinoCounty 47 36 20 6 6
ecacvb 48 34 18 5 6
visitmilwaukee 49 34 18 0 0
ClareCountyCVB 50 32 17 10 4
GrandRapidsCVB 51 31 16 5 4
VisitDetroit 52 31 16 11 13
SouthHaven_CVB 53 29 15 3 9
AshevilleCVB 54 29 15 0 0
TriValleyCVB 55 26 13 13 13
Ypsilanti 56 26 13 8 13
ButteCo 57 26 13 9 3
kingsportcvb 58 26 13 0 0
BayCityMichigan 59 23 11 5 5
MyVancouver 60 23 11 3 3
Flagstaff_CVB 61 23 11 0 0
TravelPortland 62 21 10 0 1
HarborCountry 63 19 9 5 6
visitbigrapids 64 19 9 6 4
VisitGrayling 65 19 9 16 6
Lenawee_Fun 66 17 8 0 3
HollandAreaCVB 67 17 8 4 3
AnaheimOC 68 13 6 1 1
SaultCVB 69 0 0 0 0
VisitJacksonMI 70 0 0 0 0
whatcomcounty 71 0 0 0 0
VermontTourism 72   34 66 17
NorfolkCVB 73 0 0 0 0
VisitFairfax 74 0 0 0 0
IowaTourism 75 0 0 0 0
brandingmontana 76 0 0 0 0

VermontTourism is not twittering publicly, therefore Twittergrader could not calculate a score for them.

We will start publishing some more detailed analysis for the Top 20 destination-twitterers like growth rates, tweet rates etc. as well as more best practices over the next days. Stay tuned!

For our next report we will add Twitter accounts for DMO microsites (like Philadelphia’s uwishunu). Who else are we missing?

Twitter and Tourism – are we following ourselves?

Monday, October 20th, 2008

Twitter usage by DMOs and tourism organizations is clearly growing with the number of DMOs using Twitter in the US we could find doubling from 30 to over 60 within the last 4 weeks. The number of followers for most of the DMOs is however still very small (we will have a more in depth analysis on growth rates for the top “Twitters” in US tourism later this week) with the most successful organizations attracting only a couple of hundred followers so far.

The numbers become even smaller when you take into consideration that a lot of DMOs are following each other. Even the poster-child of Twitter usage in the travel industry – Southwest Airlines – has only 4,000 followers. Not much for an airline that transports over 90 million passengers a year.

So what is the point of spending time on Twitter and reaching only a couple of hundred people when one can send an email to 100,000-150,000 people? Especially as Twitter does not give you the analytics email (if done right) can give or does not allow you to use rich media and limits you to only to 140 characters (TwitWall might change that a bit).

The point is that tools like Twitter cannot be compared to other marketing vehicles like email, radio, TV etc. It is not about blasting out a message to as many people as possible. It is about one-to-one or one-to-few interactions in a highly relevant context. This can not be done if you talk to thousands of people.

I am going to say it one more time: Twitter offers huge opportunities for the travel industry. Not because millions and millions of travelers are using Twitter already but because it is the perfect tool to learn how to deal with “micro-interactions” that will soon replace a good chuck of what we call today “marketing”.

If you cannot figure out how to interact with 200 people that are following you today, how are you going to handle 20,000? It will take time to learn this, to set up the structure needed to manage it and to develop the tools needed to measure it. Better start today. And better follow your peers to quickly learn what works and what does not.

Facebook Best Practice: Dine Out Vancouver 2008

Friday, October 17th, 2008

With a worldwide community of over 100 million members, Facebook has nearly limitless potential and obvious benefits, which is why the Dine Out Vancouver campaign is so exciting.

Quick stats for the group:
Members: 6,684 (currently)
Established:  for the 2008 campaign
Comments: 414
Photos: 207

These numbers are especially significant because the campaign ended Feb 3, 2008, so the remaining members are so excited for the next installment that they have remained within the group and in many cases active.  The last post was October 3, 2008.

Why this matters:
Due to their group member’s profiles Vancouver now knows much more than they did before about the people that are invested in their marketing.  Vancouver provided their enthusiasts with a platform to interact and in turn created a viral marketing success story from a free Facebook account and the event information that was previously available, in static versions. Additionally, people are so engaged within this campaign that they take pictures of their meals and in many cases uploaded them to the group’s page, which caused them to return to the group post event.  The continued interactions among the group members are additional touch points for Vancouver to engage their market.

Keys to Success:
Vancouver knew that their customers loved this campaign, it sells out quickly, comments were showing up on blogs and other social communities, and perhaps the best indicator of all was that seats were being resold on Craigslist, much like coveted concert or sporting event tickets.  People were already discussing, planning and waiting for Dine Out 2008, so Vancouver merely provided them with a platform to express this passion with likeminded users.

Moral of the story:
In order to gain attention and spread virally within the fiercely competitive Facebook landscape the interest and excitement needs to exist.  If you create a group, members will come, but only if they are invested in the topic, passion will drive involvement.

DMOs on Twitter – chirping getting louder

Thursday, October 16th, 2008

Twitter is going more and more mainstream in the travel space with new Destination Marketing Organizations and Convention / Visitors Bureaus joining every day. Wondering which US destinations are already on Twitter? Here is a list of who we have found so far. We probably missed a few, please let us know which ones. Next week week we will publish our monthly update on how these destinations are doing on Twitter, whose following is growing the fastest etc.

So here is who we found on Twitter, sorted by date of first tweet:

Twitter name City / State First tweet
Calistoga Calistoga, CA 9/2/2007
FortSmithCVB Forth Smith, TX 10/19/2007
ColumbiaSC Columbia, SC 11/12/2007
renotahoe Reno / Tahoe, NV 4/3/2008
TravelOregon Oregon 5/2/2008
MeetMinneapolis Minneapolis, MN 5/5/2008
ExpCols Columbus, OH 5/18/2008
PensacolaCVB Pensacola, FL 5/20/2008
ArizonaTourism Arizona 6/27/2008
InsideSonoma Sonoma, CA 7/3/2008
VisitVF Valley Forge, PA 7/23/2008
TriValleyCVB Tri Valley, CA 7/23/2008
AnaheimOC Anaheim, CA 7/23/2008
visitflorida Florida 7/24/2008
visitphilly Philadelphia, PA 7/29/2008
VaBeachCVB Virginia Beach, VA 7/29/2008
insidealaska Alaska 7/29/2008
BaltimoreMD Baltimore, MD 7/30/2008
WCVA Washington County, OR 8/4/2008
Stockton_CVB Stockton, VA 8/26/2008
VisitIndiana Indiana 8/27/2008
SpringfieldCVB Springfield, MO 9/3/2008
discover_la Los Angeles, CA 9/4/2008
WMTA1917 West Michigan, MI 9/9/2008
VisitNH New Hampshire 9/12/2008
VisitVirginia Virginia 9/15/2008
AlpharettaCVB Alpharette, GA 9/19/2008
VisitMissouri Missouri 9/25/2008
SouthHaven_CVB South Haven, MI 9/29/2008
VisitJacksonMI Jackson, MI 9/29/2008
AnnArborAreaCVB Ann Arbor, MI 9/29/2008
HollandAreaCVB Holland, MI 9/29/2008
ClareCountyCVB Clare County, MI 9/29/2008
GrandRapidsCVB Grand Rapids, MI 9/29/2008
Ypsilanti Ypsilanti, MI 9/29/2008
BayCityMichigan Bay City, MI 9/29/2008
BenzieCounty Benzie County, MI 9/29/2008
HarborCountry Harbor Country, MI 9/29/2008
LansingCVB Lansing, MI 9/29/2008
VisitDetroit Detroit, MI 9/29/2008
SaultCVB Sault, MI 9/29/2008
BattleCreekCVB Battle Creek, MI 9/29/2008
visitbigrapids Big Rapids, MI 9/29/2008
SantaRosaCVB Santa Rosa, CA 10/1/2008
MendocinoCounty Mendocino County, CA 10/1/2008
ButteCo Butte County, CA 10/1/2008
ecacvb Elisabeth City, NC 10/1/2008
ScottsdaleAZ Scottsdale, AZ 10/2/2008
VisitChicago Chicago, IL 10/3/2008
VisitGrayling Grayling, IL 10/3/2008
Clarksville_CVB Clarksville, TN 10/9/2008
ColumbiaMOCVB Columbia, MO 10/10/2008
chattanoogafun Cattagooga, TN 10/10/2008
enjoyillinois Illinois 10/15/2008
VisitFlagstaff Flagstaff, AZ 10/15/2008
VermontTourism Vermont -
AshevilleCVB Asheville -
Flagstaff_CVB Flagstaff, AZ -
NorfolkCVB Norfolk, VA -
VisitFairfax Farifax, VA -

Who did we miss? Let us know!

If you are just starting with Twitter have a look at what Chicagoland is doing on Twitter – they managed to get over 200 followers in less than 2 weeks due to a very clever “twitter recruitment” campaign. Very impressive!

Starting a company? Think Portland!

Sunday, March 30th, 2008

CnnMoney list the 100 best places to start a company and Portland came in 6ht! Reasons given where the attraction the city has for a young and talented workforce and the strong local design and tech industry. Another plus: you will not be alone with your new company: in 2007 more than 2500 start-ups were registered.